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  1. random isolation test failures

    Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> — 2011-09-26T15:43:37Z

    We are seeing numerous occasional buildfarm failures of the fk-deadlock2 
    isolation test, that look like this:
    
        ***************
        *** 32,39 ****
           step s2u1: UPDATE B SET Col2 = 1 WHERE BID = 2;
           step s1u2: UPDATE B SET Col2 = 1 WHERE BID = 2;<waiting ...>
           step s2u2: UPDATE B SET Col2 = 1 WHERE BID = 2;
        - step s1u2:<... completed>
           ERROR:  deadlock detected
           step s2c: COMMIT;
           step s1c: COMMIT;
    
        --- 32,39 ----
           step s2u1: UPDATE B SET Col2 = 1 WHERE BID = 2;
           step s1u2: UPDATE B SET Col2 = 1 WHERE BID = 2;<waiting ...>
           step s2u2: UPDATE B SET Col2 = 1 WHERE BID = 2;
           ERROR:  deadlock detected
        + step s1u2:<... completed>
           step s2c: COMMIT;
           step s1c: COMMIT;
    
    
    If this is harmless, we could provide an alternative results file as a 
    simple fix. If it's not harmless, it should be fixed.
    
    cheers
    
    andrew
    
    
    
  2. Re: random isolation test failures

    Kevin Grittner <kevin.grittner@wicourts.gov> — 2011-09-26T16:04:13Z

    Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:
     
    > We are seeing numerous occasional buildfarm failures of the
    > fk-deadlock2 isolation test
     
    > If this is harmless, we could provide an alternative results file
    > as a simple fix. If it's not harmless, it should be fixed.
     
    I agree, but don't look at me.  I'm not the one who added the tests,
    nor are they related to serializable snapshot isolation.  Tom
    recently raised the same issue on this thread:
     
    http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-09/msg00991.php
     
    Alvaro?
     
    -Kevin
    
    
  3. Re: random isolation test failures

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2011-09-26T17:10:27Z

    Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> writes:
    > We are seeing numerous occasional buildfarm failures of the fk-deadlock2 
    > isolation test,
    
    Yeah, I complained about this already, but Kevin disclaims all
    responsibility for the fk isolation tests.  It looks like Alvaro
    and Noah Misch are the people to be harassing.
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  4. Re: random isolation test failures

    Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com> — 2011-09-27T00:57:40Z

    On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 01:10:27PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
    > Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> writes:
    > > We are seeing numerous occasional buildfarm failures of the fk-deadlock2 
    > > isolation test,
    > 
    > Yeah, I complained about this already, but Kevin disclaims all
    > responsibility for the fk isolation tests.  It looks like Alvaro
    > and Noah Misch are the people to be harassing.
    
    Yep; I took advantage of Kevin's test harness for some unrelated tests.
    
    These sporadic failures happen whenever the test case takes longer than
    deadlock_timeout (currently 100ms for these tests) to setup the deadlock.  I
    outlined some mitigating strategies here:
    http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/20110727171438.GE18910@tornado.leadboat.com
    
    I'd vote for #1: let's double the deadlock_timeout until the failures stop.
    Other opinions?
    
    Thanks,
    nm
    
  5. Re: random isolation test failures

    Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> — 2011-09-27T03:29:00Z

    Excerpts from Noah Misch's message of lun sep 26 21:57:40 -0300 2011:
    
    > These sporadic failures happen whenever the test case takes longer than
    > deadlock_timeout (currently 100ms for these tests) to setup the deadlock.  I
    > outlined some mitigating strategies here:
    > http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/20110727171438.GE18910@tornado.leadboat.com
    > 
    > I'd vote for #1: let's double the deadlock_timeout until the failures stop.
    > Other opinions?
    
    I just tweaked isolationtester so that it collects the error messages
    and displays them all together at the end of the test.  After seeing it
    run, I didn't like it -- I think I prefer something more local, so that
    in the only case where we call try_complete_step twice in the loop, we
    report any errors in either.  AFAICS this would make both expected cases
    behave identically in test output.  The only thing left to figure out is
    where to store the error message between calls ... clearly Step is not
    the right place for it.  I'm on it now, anyway.
    
    -- 
    Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
    The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.
    PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
    
  6. Re: random isolation test failures

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2011-09-27T04:11:39Z

    Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes:
    > I just tweaked isolationtester so that it collects the error messages
    > and displays them all together at the end of the test.  After seeing it
    > run, I didn't like it -- I think I prefer something more local, so that
    > in the only case where we call try_complete_step twice in the loop, we
    > report any errors in either.  AFAICS this would make both expected cases
    > behave identically in test output.
    
    Hmm, is that really an appropriate fix?  I'm worried that it might mask
    event-ordering differences that actually are significant.
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  7. Re: random isolation test failures

    Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> — 2011-09-27T19:22:57Z

    Excerpts from Tom Lane's message of mar sep 27 01:11:39 -0300 2011:
    > 
    > Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes:
    > > I just tweaked isolationtester so that it collects the error messages
    > > and displays them all together at the end of the test.  After seeing it
    > > run, I didn't like it -- I think I prefer something more local, so that
    > > in the only case where we call try_complete_step twice in the loop, we
    > > report any errors in either.  AFAICS this would make both expected cases
    > > behave identically in test output.
    > 
    > Hmm, is that really an appropriate fix?  I'm worried that it might mask
    > event-ordering differences that actually are significant.
    
    In the attached, it only affects the case where there is one blocking
    command and another command that unblocks it; this is only exercised by
    the much-beaten fk-deadlock cases.  If either of the steps fails with a
    deadlock error, it is reported identically, i.e. the error message is
    emitted as
    
    "error in s1u1 s2u1: ERROR:  deadlock detected"
    
    So the deadlock could have been detected in either s1u1 or s2u1; we
    don't really care.
    
    The way error messages are reported in all the other cases is not
    changed, and these do not have a prefix; so if anything were to behave
    differently, we would find out because a spurious prefix would appear.
    
    -- 
    Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
    The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.
    PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
    
  8. Re: random isolation test failures

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2011-09-27T19:59:13Z

    Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes:
    > Excerpts from Tom Lane's message of mar sep 27 01:11:39 -0300 2011:
    >> Hmm, is that really an appropriate fix?  I'm worried that it might mask
    >> event-ordering differences that actually are significant.
    
    > In the attached, it only affects the case where there is one blocking
    > command and another command that unblocks it; this is only exercised by
    > the much-beaten fk-deadlock cases.  If either of the steps fails with a
    > deadlock error, it is reported identically, i.e. the error message is
    > emitted as
    > "error in s1u1 s2u1: ERROR:  deadlock detected"
    > So the deadlock could have been detected in either s1u1 or s2u1; we
    > don't really care.
    
    Hmm.  For the case of "deadlock detected", we actually don't *want* to
    care because the infrastructure is such that either process might report
    it.  So I agree that this is a good fix for that case.  I'm just worried
    whether it will obscure other situations where it's important to know
    which command failed.  But if you're convinced there aren't any, fine.
    
    			regards, tom lane