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  1. wrong hint message for ALTER FOREIGN TABLE

    花田 茂 <hanada@metrosystems.co.jp> — 2011-04-25T09:06:21Z

    I noticed that ALTER FOREIGN TABLE RENAME TO emits a wrong hint message 
if the object was not a foreign table.  ISTM that the hint message is 
not necessary there. Attached patch removes the hint message.

Steps to reproduce the situation:

postgres=# CREATE FOREIGN TABLE foo () SERVER file_server;
postgres=# ALTER FOREIGN TABLE foo RENAME TO bar;
ERROR:  "foo" is not a foreign table
HINT:  Use ALTER FOREIGN TABLE instead.

Regards,
-- 
Shigeru Hanada

  2. Re: wrong hint message for ALTER FOREIGN TABLE

    Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> — 2011-04-25T10:34:52Z

    On 25 April 2011 10:06, Shigeru Hanada <hanada@metrosystems.co.jp> wrote:
> I noticed that ALTER FOREIGN TABLE RENAME TO emits a wrong hint message if
> the object was not a foreign table.  ISTM that the hint message is not
> necessary there. Attached patch removes the hint message.
>
> Steps to reproduce the situation:
>
> postgres=# CREATE FOREIGN TABLE foo () SERVER file_server;
> postgres=# ALTER FOREIGN TABLE foo RENAME TO bar;
> ERROR:  "foo" is not a foreign table
> HINT:  Use ALTER FOREIGN TABLE instead.

Don't you mean that you created a regular table first, then tried to
rename it as a foreign table?  Your example here will be successful
without the error.

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  3. Re: wrong hint message for ALTER FOREIGN TABLE

    花田 茂 <hanada@metrosystems.co.jp> — 2011-04-25T11:32:18Z

    (2011/04/25 19:34), Thom Brown wrote:
> Don't you mean that you created a regular table first, then tried to
> rename it as a foreign table?  Your example here will be successful
> without the error.

Oops, you are right.
Right procedure to reproduce is:

postgres=# CREATE TABLE foo(c1 int);
CREATE TABLE
postgres=# ALTER FOREIGN TABLE foo RENAME TO bar;
ERROR:  "foo" is not a foreign table
HINT:  Use ALTER FOREIGN TABLE instead.

Regards,
-- 
Shigeru Hanada

  4. Re: wrong hint message for ALTER FOREIGN TABLE

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2011-04-25T14:17:45Z

    Shigeru Hanada <hanada@metrosystems.co.jp> writes:
> I noticed that ALTER FOREIGN TABLE RENAME TO emits a wrong hint message 
> if the object was not a foreign table.  ISTM that the hint message is 
> not necessary there. Attached patch removes the hint message.

Surely it would be better to make the hint correct (ie, "Use ALTER TABLE")
rather than just nuke it?

			regards, tom lane

  5. Re: wrong hint message for ALTER FOREIGN TABLE

    Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> — 2011-04-25T21:08:16Z

    On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Shigeru Hanada <hanada@metrosystems.co.jp> writes:
>> I noticed that ALTER FOREIGN TABLE RENAME TO emits a wrong hint message
>> if the object was not a foreign table.  ISTM that the hint message is
>> not necessary there. Attached patch removes the hint message.
>
> Surely it would be better to make the hint correct (ie, "Use ALTER TABLE")
> rather than just nuke it?

The sequence of steps that he posted wasn't actually right.  See
subsequent emails on the thread.  The patch seems trivially correct,
since this is obviously schizophrenic:

  		ereport(ERROR,
  				(errcode(ERRCODE_WRONG_OBJECT_TYPE),
  				 errmsg("\"%s\" is not a foreign table",
! 						RelationGetRelationName(targetrelation)),
! 				 errhint("Use ALTER FOREIGN TABLE instead.")));

It's not a... so I should use a... erp.

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  6. Re: wrong hint message for ALTER FOREIGN TABLE

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2011-04-25T23:03:41Z

    Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
> The sequence of steps that he posted wasn't actually right.

Yes, I did read the thread.

> The patch seems trivially correct,
> since this is obviously schizophrenic:

>   		ereport(ERROR,
>   				(errcode(ERRCODE_WRONG_OBJECT_TYPE),
>   				 errmsg("\"%s\" is not a foreign table",
> ! 						RelationGetRelationName(targetrelation)),
> ! 				 errhint("Use ALTER FOREIGN TABLE instead.")));

Well, it's a pretty obvious global-search-and-replace error, but I fail
to see the advantage of just deleting the hint.  I was thinking

-			 errhint("Use ALTER FOREIGN TABLE instead.")));
+			 errhint("Use ALTER TABLE instead.")));

As per the other thread today, this advice would usually be correct,
so I think that not offering any advice at all would be a step down from
that.

			regards, tom lane

  7. Re: wrong hint message for ALTER FOREIGN TABLE

    Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> — 2011-04-25T23:27:25Z

    On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
>> The sequence of steps that he posted wasn't actually right.
>
> Yes, I did read the thread.

OK.

>> The patch seems trivially correct,
>> since this is obviously schizophrenic:
>
>>               ereport(ERROR,
>>                               (errcode(ERRCODE_WRONG_OBJECT_TYPE),
>>                                errmsg("\"%s\" is not a foreign table",
>> !                                             RelationGetRelationName(targetrelation)),
>> !                              errhint("Use ALTER FOREIGN TABLE instead.")));
>
> Well, it's a pretty obvious global-search-and-replace error, but I fail
> to see the advantage of just deleting the hint.  I was thinking
>
> -                        errhint("Use ALTER FOREIGN TABLE instead.")));
> +                        errhint("Use ALTER TABLE instead.")));
>
> As per the other thread today, this advice would usually be correct,
> so I think that not offering any advice at all would be a step down from
> that.

Well, currently ALTER TABLE will work even if the argument is a view
or sequence, but I view that as a backwards-compatibility kludge we
should be looking to move away from, not something we want to further
bake in.  However, I'm out of time to bikeshed on this issue, so fix
it however you like.

-- 
Robert Haas
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  8. Re: wrong hint message for ALTER FOREIGN TABLE

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2011-04-26T00:02:34Z

    Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>> As per the other thread today, this advice would usually be correct,
>> so I think that not offering any advice at all would be a step down from
>> that.

> Well, currently ALTER TABLE will work even if the argument is a view
> or sequence, but I view that as a backwards-compatibility kludge we
> should be looking to move away from, not something we want to further
> bake in.  However, I'm out of time to bikeshed on this issue, so fix
> it however you like.

Well, actually, having looked at the proposed patch in context I now
agree with Shigeru-san's fix:

    /*
     * For compatibility with prior releases, we don't complain if ALTER TABLE
     * or ALTER INDEX is used to rename some other type of relation.  But
     * ALTER SEQUENCE/VIEW/FOREIGN TABLE are only to be used with relations of
     * that type.
     */
    if (reltype == OBJECT_SEQUENCE && relkind != RELKIND_SEQUENCE)
        ereport(ERROR,
                (errcode(ERRCODE_WRONG_OBJECT_TYPE),
                 errmsg("\"%s\" is not a sequence",
                        RelationGetRelationName(targetrelation))));

    if (reltype == OBJECT_VIEW && relkind != RELKIND_VIEW)
        ereport(ERROR,
                (errcode(ERRCODE_WRONG_OBJECT_TYPE),
                 errmsg("\"%s\" is not a view",
                        RelationGetRelationName(targetrelation))));

    if (reltype == OBJECT_FOREIGN_TABLE && relkind != RELKIND_FOREIGN_TABLE)
        ereport(ERROR,
                (errcode(ERRCODE_WRONG_OBJECT_TYPE),
                 errmsg("\"%s\" is not a foreign table",
                        RelationGetRelationName(targetrelation)),
                 errhint("Use ALTER FOREIGN TABLE instead.")));

    /*
     * Don't allow ALTER TABLE on composite types. We want people to use ALTER
     * TYPE for that.
     */
    if (relkind == RELKIND_COMPOSITE_TYPE)
        ereport(ERROR,
                (errcode(ERRCODE_WRONG_OBJECT_TYPE),
                 errmsg("\"%s\" is a composite type",
                        RelationGetRelationName(targetrelation)),
                 errhint("Use ALTER TYPE instead.")));

If we haven't felt a need for HINTs for the ALTER SEQUENCE or ALTER VIEW
cases, it seems unlikely that we need one for ALTER FOREIGN TABLE.
Probably whoever wrote this was analogizing to the ALTER TABLE/TYPE case
after it, but that's not the same kind of situation, as evidenced by the
fact that the primary error message is worded differently.

			regards, tom lane