Re: Continue transactions after errors in psql

Michael Paesold <mpaesold@gmx.at>

From: "Michael Paesold" <mpaesold@gmx.at>
To: "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>, <pgsql-patches@postgresql.org>
Date: 2005-03-08T07:05:27Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:

>> * You have not yet implemented a way to savely put \reseterror
>> in .psqlrc. I previously suggested an AUTO setting (additional
>> to ON/OFF) that disables \reseterror when reading from a non-tty.
>> So putting \reseterror AUTO in ..psqlrc would be save.
>
> Hmm...I suppose we could do that. Do we have anything else that
> does something similar? I guess I'm not convinced that we need
> to change a switch's behavior based on the tty status.

I do think so. In it's current state, would you yourself put \reseterror in 
your .psqlrc? Or even an /etc/psqlrc?
It would break all my scripts that must either succeed or fail -- now they 
will produce garbage in my databases when something goes wrong! In my 
opinion, the behaviour should depend on tty in all settings, but I am o.k. 
with an AUTO setting, because so it's at least usable.

I think without tty-detection, the patch just conflicts with PostgreSQL 
philosophy that the user should be kept save from unintended 
data-destruction.

The SQL-Standard itself says that errors inside transactions should only 
rollback the last statement, if possible. So why is that not implemented in 
PostgreSQL? What I read from past discussions here, is because it's just 
unsave and will lead to data-garbage if you aren't very careful.

>> * If I read the code correctly, you now don't destroy user savepoints
>> anymore, but on the other hand, you do not release the psql savepoint 
>> after
>> a user-defined savepoint is released. In other words, each time a user
>> creates a savepoint, one psql savepoint is left on the subxact stack. I
>> don't know if this is a real problem, though.
>
> Correct. More detail: we release our own temporary savepoint, unless
> the user has successfully implemented their own savepoint...

The current way is ok for me at the moment. I still think there is a better 
way (parsing statements like it's already done for 
no-transaction-allowed-statements), but hey, as soon as your patch will be 
applied, I can myself propose another patch to improve this. ;-)

Best Regards,
Michael Paesold