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1. Mandrake Postgres RPMs

   Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu> — 1999-11-19T15:40:30Z

   I've installed Mandrake 6.1 on a new laptop (an early Christmas
   present :) and notice a little trouble with the RPMs. Somehow, they
   include the old postgresql-clients-6.4.2 package as well as all of the
   -6.5.1 packages. I assume that RedHat 6.1 does not show the same
   problem?
   
   Does anyone already talk to the Mandrake folks, or run Mandrake and
   would like to pursue this?
   
   btw, the RPM installation was *really nice*!!!!! For some reason the
   server packages were not installed when I built the system, and I
   installed later so got to see it happen. The RPM automatically
   unpacked everything, did the initdb, and a
   "/etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql start" got me a server.
   
   One detail: Mandrake defines a Postgres user, but disables the
   password. I added the password and was then able to log in as the
   Postgres user and add other users. Is that the preferred way to do
   it??
   
                      - Thomas
   
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   Thomas Lockhart				lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
   South Pasadena, California
   
   

2. Re: [HACKERS] Mandrake Postgres RPMs

   J. Roeleveld <j.roeleveld@softhome.net> — 1999-11-19T15:56:48Z

   > One detail: Mandrake defines a Postgres user, but disables the
   > password. I added the password and was then able to log in as the
   > Postgres user and add other users. Is that the preferred way to do
   > it??
   
   I usually 'su' to the postgres - user from root, and then create a
   super-user-account
   for myself, and then do all the other stuff from there.
   I don't know how other people think about this, but I have found that
   the less passwords there are into a system, the harder it is for people to
   break in.
   
   Joost Roeleveld
   
   
   

3. Re: Mandrake Postgres RPMs

   Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org> — 1999-11-19T17:14:20Z

   Thomas Lockhart wrote:
   > I've installed Mandrake 6.1 on a new laptop (an early Christmas
   > present :) and notice a little trouble with the RPMs. Somehow, they
   > include the old postgresql-clients-6.4.2 package as well as all of the
   > -6.5.1 packages. I assume that RedHat 6.1 does not show the same
   > problem?
   
   That is a Mandrake problem.  They haven't really followed the
   development of the new RPM's like RedHat did for RedHat 6.1.  So, they
   shipped mutually exclusive RPMs for PostgreSQL because they didn't pay
   close enough attention.  Also, the RPM's shipped with Mandrake 6.1 are
   somewhat older than what shipped with RedHat 6.1.  And RedHat 6.1 does
   not include any older RPMs of PostgreSQL.  (http://www.cheapbytes.com
   for real cheap RedHat CD's..... :-))  HOWEVER, f you have a laptop, you
   may want to wait until RedHat 6.2 is released, as there are some issues
   with some laptops and RedHat 6.1's kernel -- although I think that most
   of the troubles are with Toshiba's.
   
   > Does anyone already talk to the Mandrake folks, or run Mandrake and
   > would like to pursue this?
   
   I have e-mailed the Mandrake folks on two occasions -- haven't received
   a reply.  HOWEVER, they will pull whatever is the current RPM set from
   ftp.postgresql.org when they get to another release point (AFAIK).
   
   > btw, the RPM installation was *really nice*!!!!! For some reason the
   > server packages were not installed when I built the system, and I
   > installed later so got to see it happen. The RPM automatically
   > unpacked everything, did the initdb, and a
   > "/etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql start" got me a server.
   
   Well, thank you.  It is virtually impossible to force the installation
   of the server package for the OS install without forcing it for all
   installs -- which I believe we didn't want -- the purpose of splitting
   it out, IIRC, was to allow a client-only installation for those who
   might want such a beast.
   
   As I said, that was a slightly older RPM set than RedHat 6.1 shipped --
   Mandrake 6.1 shipped before RH 6.1 by a couple of weeks. The Mandrake
   people pulled the 6.5.1-0.8 RPM's off of RawHide -- apparently about two
   days before I finalized the upgrading stuff -- but after I put in the
   automatic initdb, I believe.
   
   > One detail: Mandrake defines a Postgres user, but disables the
   > password. I added the password and was then able to log in as the
   > Postgres user and add other users. Is that the preferred way to do
   > it??
   
   RedHat 6.1 also does this.  This way, passwordless accounts are not left
   after an installation as a security hole.  BTW, this is the way I
   normally run -- if I want to do stuff as postgres, I su to root then su
   to postgres, as I don't want to allow direct logins to postgres.  Of
   course, to each his own.  The RPM post install script could feed a
   default password in, but that would be just as bad as no password at
   all.
   
   Glad you're enjoying it....
   
   --
   Lamar Owen
   WGCR Internet Radio
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