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  1. Re: [HACKERS] CVSup

    Maurice Gittens <mgittens@gits.nl> — 1998-05-01T11:46:01Z

    -----Original Message-----
    From: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
    To: Maurice Gittens <mgittens@gits.nl>
    Cc: hackers@postgreSQL.org <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
    Date: vrijdag 1 mei 1998 19:34
    Subject: Re: [HACKERS] CVSup
    
    
    >
    > If you remove the 'tag=.' part of the CVSup config file, you can
    >pull down the complete CVS repository to your machine to manipulate as you
    >want to...
    >
    
    What way would suggest to keep in sync with the changes other folks are
    making? I mean, if I have the repository on my local system I still have to
    get changes changes merged in from the "main" postgresql repository.
    When I think about it all solutions seem more clumsy (and less flexible)
    than simply using the standard remote access to the repository.
    
    Could you enlighten me?
    
    With thanks from Maurice.
    
    
    
    
    
  2. Re: [HACKERS] CVSup

    Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> — 1998-05-01T11:54:24Z

    On Fri, 1 May 1998, Maurice Gittens wrote:
    
    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
    > To: Maurice Gittens <mgittens@gits.nl>
    > Cc: hackers@postgreSQL.org <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
    > Date: vrijdag 1 mei 1998 19:34
    > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] CVSup
    > 
    > 
    > >
    > > If you remove the 'tag=.' part of the CVSup config file, you can
    > >pull down the complete CVS repository to your machine to manipulate as you
    > >want to...
    > >
    > 
    > What way would suggest to keep in sync with the changes other folks are
    > making? I mean, if I have the repository on my local system I still have to
    > get changes changes merged in from the "main" postgresql repository.
    > When I think about it all solutions seem more clumsy (and less flexible)
    > than simply using the standard remote access to the repository.
    > 
    > Could you enlighten me?
    
    	If you pull down the repository using CVSup into
    /usr/local/cvsroot, for example, and set your CVSROOT environment variable
    to point to that, you access the same thing that everyone with commit
    privileges has access to, except you don't have commit privileges...
    
    	In one sense, this is better...you don't have to deal with the lag
    of connecting to the remove CVS server every time you want to look at a
    log or a diff...the only time you have to "re-sync" with the remote server
    is when you want to pull down any recent changes, which, if you follow the
    committers mailing list, you do when you notice a rash of changes...
    
    	A dialup PPP user is better served by pulling own theh  whole CVS
    repositiry and then being able to disconnect/work then using CVS directly
    where you need to be connected to do anything...
    
    
    
    
    
  3. Re: [HACKERS] CVSup

    Kent S. Gordon <kgor@inetspace.com> — 1998-05-01T13:16:36Z

    >>>>> "mgittens" == Maurice Gittens <mgittens@gits.nl> writes:
    
        > -----Original Message----- From: The Hermit Hacker
        > <scrappy@hub.org> To: Maurice Gittens <mgittens@gits.nl> Cc:
        > hackers@postgreSQL.org <hackers@postgreSQL.org> Date: vrijdag 1
        > mei 1998 19:34 Subject: Re: [HACKERS] CVSup
    
    
        >>  If you remove the 'tag=.' part of the CVSup config file, you
        >> can pull down the complete CVS repository to your machine to
        >> manipulate as you want to...
        >> 
    
        > What way would suggest to keep in sync with the changes other
        > folks are making? I mean, if I have the repository on my local
        > system I still have to get changes changes merged in from the
        > "main" postgresql repository.  When I think about it all
        > solutions seem more clumsy (and less flexible) than simply using
        > the standard remote access to the repository.
    
    1) Remote CVS is a resource pig, especially for large tree.  It puts a 
    large load on the server.  I would guess the load is easily 10x larger 
    for remote CVS vs CVSUP.  cvs log/diff being local instead of over the
    internet is great for development especially with dialup lines to the
    Internet. 
    
    
    2)  The ability to have a local copy of the 'official tree' allows for 
    some possible ideas to work easier.  If one is making local changes
    the 'official tree' could be done as vendor imports into a local tree
    allowing local changes not to be overwritten.
        > Could you enlighten me?
    
        > With thanks from Maurice.
    
    -- 
    Kent S. Gordon
    Architect
    iNetSpace Co.
    voice: (972)851-3494 fax:(972)702-0384 e-mail:kgor@inetspace.com
    
    
  4. Re: [HACKERS] CVSup

    Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu> — 1998-05-01T13:36:47Z

    >     >>  If you remove the 'tag=.' part of the CVSup config file, you
    >     >> can pull down the complete CVS repository to your machine to
    >     >> manipulate as you want to...
    >     >>
    > 1) Remote CVS is a resource pig, especially for large tree.  It puts a
    > large load on the server.  I would guess the load is easily 10x larger
    > for remote CVS vs CVSUP.  cvs log/diff being local instead of over the
    > internet is great for development especially with dialup lines to the
    > Internet.
    > 2)  The ability to have a local copy of the 'official tree' allows for
    > some possible ideas to work easier.  If one is making local changes
    > the 'official tree' could be done as vendor imports into a local tree
    > allowing local changes not to be overwritten.
    
    Would someone be interested in collecting CVSup information (at least
    partly from the mhonarc archive)? We could/should have a chapter in the
    Developer's Guide on this...
    
                           - Tom
    
    
  5. Re: [HACKERS] CVSup

    Kent S. Gordon <kgor@inetspace.com> — 1998-05-01T13:47:23Z

    >>>>> "lockhart" == Thomas G Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
    
    
        > Would someone be interested in collecting CVSup information (at
        > least partly from the mhonarc archive)? We could/should have a
        > chapter in the Developer's Guide on this...
    
    I would suggest looking at the CVSup pages from FreeBSD
    ( http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cvsup.html ).  This page along with
    a similar pages for anoncvs
    ( http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/anoncvs.html ) are good resources
    for understanding the trade-offs.  CVSup was developed/maintained
    mainly on FreeBSD ( a new release (15.4) was just announced).
        >                        - Tom
    
    -- 
    Kent S. Gordon
    Architect
    iNetSpace Co.
    voice: (972)851-3494 fax:(972)702-0384 e-mail:kgor@inetspace.com