Re: db growing out of proportion

Todd Nemanich <todd@twopunks.org>

From: Todd Nemanich <todd@twopunks.org>
To: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org
Date: 2003-05-30T14:25:42Z
Lists: pgsql-bugs, pgsql-performance
I have a database with similar performance constraints. Our best 
estimates put the turnover on our most active table at 350k tuples/day. 
The hardware is a 4x1.4GHz Xeon w/ a RAID 1 disk setup, and the DB 
floats around 500MB of disk space taken. Here is what we do to maintain 
operations:

1) Cron job @ 4:00AM that runs a full vacuum analyze on the DB, and 
reindex on the major tables. (Reindex is to maintain index files in SHM) 
An alerting feature pages the administrator if the job does not complete 
within a reasonable amount of time.

2) Every 15 minutes, a cron job runs a vacuum analyze on our five 
largest tables. An alert is emailed to the administrator if a second 
vacuum attempts to start before the previous completes.

3) Every week, we review the disk usage numbers from daily peaks. This 
determines if we need to increase our shmmax & shared buffers.

Additionally, you may want to take a look at your query performance. Are 
most of your queries doing sequential scans? In my system, the crucial 
columns of the primary tables are int8 and float8 fields. I have those 
indexed, and I get a serious performance boost by making sure all 
SELECT/UPDATE/DELETE queries that use those columns in the WHERE have an 
explicit ::int8 or ::float8 (Explain analyze is your friend). During 
peak usage, there is an order of magnitude difference (usually 10 to 
15x) between queries doing sequential scans on the table, and queries 
doing index scans. Might be worth investigating if your queries are 
taking 5 seconds when your DB is fresh. HTH.



Tomas Szepe wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I'm facing a simple yet gravely problem with postgresql 7.3.2 on x86 Linux.
> My db is used to store IP accounting statistics for about 30 C's.  There are
> a couple truly trivial tables such as the one below:
> 
> CREATE TABLE stats_min
> (
> 	ip	inet		NOT NULL,
> 	start	timestamp	NOT NULL default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP(0),
> 	intlen	int4		NOT NULL default 60,
> 	d_in	int8		NOT NULL,
> 	d_out	int8		NOT NULL,
> 
> 	constraint "stats_min_pkey" PRIMARY KEY ("ip", "start")
> );
> CREATE INDEX stats_min_start ON stats_min (start);
> 
> A typical transaction committed on these tables looks like this:
> 
> BEGIN WORK
> 	DELETE ...
> 	UPDATE/INSERT ...
> COMMIT WORK
> 
> Trouble is, as the rows in the tables get deleted/inserted/updated
> (the frequency being a couple thousand rows per minute), the database
> is growing out of proportion in size.  After about a week, I have
> to redump the db by hand so as to get query times back to sensible
> figures.  A transaction that takes ~50 seconds before the redump will
> then complete in under 5 seconds (the corresponding data/base/ dir having
> shrunk from ~2 GB to ~0.6GB).
> 
> A nightly VACCUM ANALYZE is no use.
> 
> A VACUUM FULL is no use.
> 
> A VACUUM FULL followed by REINDEX is no use.
> 
> It seems that only a full redump involving "pg_dump olddb | \
> psql newdb" is capable of restoring the system to its working
> glory.
> 
> Please accept my apologies if I've overlooked a relevant piece of
> information in the docs.  I'm in an urgent need of getting this
> problem resolved.
>