Re: RFD: schemas and different kinds of Postgres objects
Fernando Nasser <fnasser@redhat.com>
From: Fernando Nasser <fnasser@redhat.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>, pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Date: 2002-01-22T15:50:17Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Tom Lane wrote: > > Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes: > > Remember that a schema is a named representation of ownership, so anything > > that can be owned must be in a schema. (Unless you want to invent a > > parallel universe for a different kind of ownership, which would be > > incredibly confusing.) > > I don't buy that premise. It's true that SQL92 equates ownership of a > schema with ownership of the objects therein, but AFAICS we have no hope > of being forward-compatible with existing database setups (wherein there > can be multiple tables of different ownership all in a single namespace) > if we don't allow varying ownership within a schema. I think we can > arrange things so that we are upward compatible with both SQL92 and > the old way. Haven't worked out details yet though. > Peter is right. Schemas is just a practical way of creating things under the same authorization-id + crating a namespace so that different authorization-ids can have objects with the same (unqualified name). Quoting Date (pg. 221): "The schema authID for a given schema identifies the owner of that schema (and hence the owner of everything described by that schema also)." It is very important that we reach a conclusion on this as it simplifies things a lot. Regards, Fernando P.S.: That is why I was telling you that, except for the namespace part, we already have the groundwork for Entry-level SQL-Schemas (where the schema is always the authorization-id of the creator) -- it is just a question of handling the "owner" appropriately. -- Fernando Nasser Red Hat Canada Ltd. E-Mail: fnasser@redhat.com 2323 Yonge Street, Suite #300 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2C9